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Velid: Not so sure how should I feel about comment that they don't really care about what opinions we voice here... Should I read that they really don't give a f*ck??
Fucks they do not g*ve. It is both a blessing and a curse.

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Velid: Let's compare this pricing with games from that time - for example games from Sega Genesis/MegaDrive - which on steam are priced $2.99
If you become a Steam trader then every game becomes free ya know. Buying stuff on Steam defeats the purpose.

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Velid: Another thing is - why they don't approach humblebundle - which I don't remember every selling anything from GOG.com. (They did sell steam, uplay and origin games)
Because GOG doesn't publish the games, the developers/publishers do. And Steam has more support from them because of its bigger customer base. It's them who undercut GOG sales with better deals elsewhere for the same products that they publish on here. For original products (Aladdin for example) it's up to Disney.
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MaximumBunny: Because GOG doesn't publish the games, the developers/publishers do. And Steam has more support from them because of its bigger customer base. It's them who undercut GOG sales with better deals elsewhere for the same products that they publish on here. For original products (Aladdin for example) it's up to Disney.
They could try some things with the few they do publish though, see what happens.
As for publishers caring only for Steam, seems familiar. Like caring only for Facebook to keep in touch, and for years heading the way of caring only for mobile for sites and so on. All eggs in one basket, you'd think they'd see the dangers of that. Especially with GOG being the 2nd player on the market, regardless of how far behind the first, so not caring for GOG makes it clear it's very much the one basket mindset.
Some people will probably buy them despite their ridiculous pricing, but I can't help but think that nobody benefits from the current prices. Very few people are likely able to justify spending that much on such old games that they won't be able to add to their physical collection and this will greatly outweigh any profits gained from the high price of the games
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Bovrilled: but I can't help but think that nobody benefits from the current prices.
I can't think of several who do. :P
It's pretty simple really. A company owns a product (in this case, the publisher of the game) and wants to sell it on GOG.com. The publisher and GOG negotiate together to determine a price to sell the game at which may potentially require parity with what the game sells for elsewhere if necessary etc.

The product is sold at that price and people either buy it or they don't. If it sells profitably at the offered price and produces a return on investment that the publisher considers a success then the market has collectively decided the price is a fair price to charge and the publisher has no business rationale to sell it for less. If on the other hand the product is considered by the marketplace to have too high of a price collectively and simply does not sell as a result to the point where estimated profit margins and ROI are not being achieved then they will most likely lower the regular price of that game in order to stimulate interest in the game.

When a game is being introduced to the market, whether a new game or a new old game, there has to be some degree of speculation and thus some degree of risk involved in the pricing equation being used. One thing can be relatively certain though, which is that if a game is offered at a certain regular price and continues to hold that same regular price sustained for some time after the product hits the market, then the product is selling in adequate quantity to meet or exceed the return on investment desired and a company has no financial reason to lower the price of the product.

That's all really just a detailed fancy way to say that the prices of games are initially set based on what the publisher estimates the target market is willing to pay for the game, and if they're wrong and do not meet their profitability targets then they're likely to lower the price of a game. If a game's price does not drop, then it is a good sign that the price of the game is exactly what the market values the game at.

There will be people who value the price of anything higher or lower than the asking price (not just games). If someone values a game at a price lower than what is being asked, then simply don't buy it. If the price remains that price however, it's not because the game is overpriced, it is because it is priced precisely what the market as a whole is willing to pay for it even if some individuals are not.

Over time, prices will likely come down naturally as well as promotional sales, so if someone doesn't like the asking price they can simply wait until the price hits their own specific valuation for the game.

</capitalism 101>
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Bovrilled: Some people will probably buy them despite their ridiculous pricing, but I can't help but think that nobody benefits from the current prices. Very few people are likely able to justify spending that much on such old games that they won't be able to add to their physical collection and this will greatly outweigh any profits gained from the high price of the games
Good point - at current ridiculous price, game will not sell well, if at all - where if it was fairly priced, sales might move other companies to release their games as well. This remind me of macro sales that Apple and later Google adopted with their games. It is much easy to part with few bucks... and in the end they make more money, because some who otherwise would never buy game - will do it.

Hope someone from gog.com is reading... as it should be in their interest to stay in business... with pricing like this, I can't see them last very long.
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Velid: Good point - at current ridiculous price, game will not sell well, if at all - where if it was fairly priced, sales might move other companies to release their games as well. This remind me of macro sales that Apple and later Google adopted with their games. It is much easy to part with few bucks... and in the end they make more money, because some who otherwise would never buy game - will do it.

Hope someone from gog.com is reading... as it should be in their interest to stay in business... with pricing like this, I can't see them last very long.
They're currently already around #1000 in the sales list though, meaning that a good third of all GOG game titles sold less than these did just in the brief time since release.
And with people being s... people, they won't have to worry about lasting. The worse they do, the better off they'll be tends to be the general rule. A very general one in this society.
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Bovrilled:
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Velid: Hope someone from gog.com is reading... as it should be in their interest to stay in business... with pricing like this, I can't see them last very long.
XD There are over fifty post in here explaining that GOG doesn't set the prices.

DID YOU READ ANY OF THEM!? :P

Seriously, is this you?
Post edited August 09, 2016 by tinyE
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Cavalary: They could try some things with the few they do publish though, see what happens.
How would it benefit GOG to sell their self-published games through another service (Humble Bundle)? If GOG wanted to sell their self-published games for dirt cheap or even PWYW, wouldn't it make more sense for them to set up such sales on GOG.com, not Humble Bundle? I recall GOG has in the past had some sort of PWYW sale already.

Overall, I find it a bit silly for common people to tell GOG how they should run their business. GOG has the numbers and has a better touch to reality what works for them and what not, and it is their neck that is on the line, not yours. So if GOG doesn't see the point of selling GOG keys through Humble Bundle, then they don't. Maybe they change their mind at some point, who knows.
Post edited August 09, 2016 by timppu
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Velid: Hope someone from gog.com is reading... as it should be in their interest to stay in business... with pricing like this, I can't see them last very long.
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tinyE: XD There are over fifty post in here explaining that GOG doesn't set the prices.

DID YOU READ ANY OF THEM!? :P

Seriously, is this you?
I think I've already mentioned that I am not much into forum/discussion here. Just started, after having gog account from beginning. Sure, you can believe that is me, for asking questions... interesting view...

@timppu - selling product at lower price is still better then not selling at all at higher price. I have tons of games from humble-bundle, bundlestars and indigala that are DRM free (just like games here) and where I usually got 6-12 games for few bucks (mostly old games or indie). Just for example, for 15 bucks at HB I got most of StarWars games, where most of them here cost 10 bucks EACH. Even at summer sale, few games were already outpricing whole SW bundle.

Please don't tell me Disney (LucasArts) did not negotiate price with HB.... either HB knows how to do it (better), or someone is unwilling here to lower price, trying to create bubble in retro-market.

EDIT: And true, simply - you don't buy anymore here... and that is precisely why I am not getting any games here anymore. Trying to point exactly to that fact... I know I am not the only one. (I have few friends with over 5K games on steam - yet neither of them spend any money here, even I know they are really retro gamers) I have close to 1500 games on steam, 200 here. Here I am 7 years, while I have steam for a bit over a year?!
Post edited August 09, 2016 by Velid
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Velid: Is it just me, or GOG has lost its touch with reality... Seriously - 3 latest addition to GOG catalogue (Disney's game) - do you seriously think they are worth 10 bucks each?? ...
That's modern pricing for you. It's okay (mostly). You can get these games much cheaper during sales (my guess: -60% at least). So only buy games during sales. Never buy outside of sales. Never buy for the daily printed price. Only buy with discounts of at least 50%, preferably 80-90%.

That way prices look sane again, however with the limitation of GOG not selling the games at a discount every day.

It's bad, but I guess it's headology. We will have to live with it. These new old Disney games should be $10 in total or $4-6 each at most. Well, just ignore them until there is a sale and everything is fine.

My guess: GOG already knows that not many want to buy them at that price. They are doing it ... because they don't know any better way. But they also know we will buy at the next good sale.

So all, everyone is doing is waiting for the next sale...
Post edited August 09, 2016 by Trilarion
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Trilarion: So all, everyone is doing is waiting for the next sale...
Yes.
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tinyE: XD There are over fifty post in here explaining that GOG doesn't set the prices.

DID YOU READ ANY OF THEM!? :P

Seriously, is this you?
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Velid: I think I've already mentioned that I am not much into forum/discussion here.
I understand and appreciate that, but how does that excuse ignoring all the replies you got? :P

As a result of that you took a totally unfair swipe at GOG.
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Velid: I think I've already mentioned that I am not much into forum/discussion here.
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tinyE: I understand and appreciate that, but how does that excuse ignoring all the replies you got? :P

As a result of that you took a totally unfair swipe at GOG.
That is a bit troll message, as not everyone is agreeing with you either that everything is all right.

One of forum devoted to Amiga had similar discussion, where most of those that supported GOG in beginning are now using ONLY Steam and biggest reason is pricing, even in times of sales.

For example, can't remember exact price for games from Cinemaware (amiga/DOS games, sold separately) , but for example, on Steam I got whole pack for $1.50. here is the list:

Defender of the Crown, 5.99
SDI, N/A
The King of Chicago, N/A
Sinbad and the Throne of the Falcon, N/A
Lords of the Rising Sun, N/A
Rocket Ranger*, 5.99
It Came From the Desert, N/A
It Came From the Desert II: Antheads, N/A
Wings!, 5.99
TV Sports: Football, N/A
TV Sports: Basketball, N/A
TV Sports: Baseball, N/A
TV Sports: Boxing, N/A

EDIT: Not to be lazy, here is what I found on GOG. 3 games for Amiga (emulated) @ 90% would cost more then pack I got on Steam. Steam pack included DOS and Amiga version, if existed. Hope you see my point, that even at sale, games are still higher priced.
Post edited August 09, 2016 by Velid
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tinyE: I understand and appreciate that, but how does that excuse ignoring all the replies you got? :P

As a result of that you took a totally unfair swipe at GOG.
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Velid: That is a bit troll message, as not everyone is agreeing with you either that everything is all right.

One of forum devoted to Amiga had similar discussion, where most of those that supported GOG in beginning are now using ONLY Steam and biggest reason is pricing, even in times of sales.

For example, can't remember exact price for games from Cinemaware (amiga/DOS games, sold separately) , but for example, on Steam I got whole pack for $1.50. here is the list:

EDIT: Not to be lazy, here is what I found on GOG. 3 games for Amiga (emulated) @ 90% would cost more then pack I got on Steam. Steam pack included DOS and Amiga version, if existed. Hope you see my point, that even at sale, games are still higher priced.
You don't buy games on Steam, you rent them.

What do you think cost more, renting a car or purchasing one? Of course Steam is cheaper, they never lose possession of the game and your use of it is entirely dependent upon them.
Post edited August 09, 2016 by tinyE